Posted in Me, Other, Projects, Uncategorized on Sep 04, 2007

What do you get when you put together LyFOX & GAMV? you get glideo of course.
A work in progress & by invitation only glideo will be amazing. Still the direction of glideo is not certain but will be worth wild. Look forward to seeing more information about glideo in the upcoming weeks.

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  1. # 1 JMR Says:

    Great to hear Ferny. I see another hit. I can’t wait.

  2. # 2 kid Says:

    i want to download video from

  3. # 3 apoorva Says:

    great news….cant wait to see this……

  4. # 4 symour Says:

    wahhh nice!!! that would be so great! gud luck! ei if you ever need beta testers sign me up ! tnx

  5. # 5 jjr Says:

    nice! what do we need to sign up?

  6. # 6 fernyb Says:

    I will be sending out invitation to only certain users and will remain private beta until I am sure its something good enough to release. JJR you are on my list for users to test out the private beta.

  7. # 7 apoorva Says:

    ferny, can i be on your invite list?

  8. # 8 rudy Says:

    can you send me an invitation please….

  9. # 9 guest Says:

    pick me , pick me , me me me…

  10. # 10 innocenceisdeath Says:

    Wow this sounds really awesome, always loved lyFox and GAMV. Can’t wait for this!
    Don’t suppose I could an invite please? :P

  11. # 11 Josh Merchant Says:

    If it’s not too much of a hassle could you send me an invite?
    Always a fan.

  12. # 12 J5 Says:

    I’m interested as well.
    Invite if you can.

  13. # 13 luuhoangminh Says:

    I love LyFOX’n'GAMV best !!! I can’t wait to see it. Please give me invitation if you don’t mind !!!

  14. # 14 RJ Says:

    COOL put me on the invite list

  15. # 15 JMR Says:

    Anyway you can post phpGAMV code? Maybe I can help with some coding and integration.

  16. # 16 Pay Low Music! Says:

    Viva Glideo! :P

    We ‘re all waiting for it.

  17. # 17 alejandro Says:

    enviame por favor fernyb una invitacion

  18. # 18 stellar Says:

    one invitation for me pls.. :)

  19. # 19 Ricky Says:

    Hey, I really like LyFox & GAMV, could I have an invitation, please? Thanks for keeping up such an amazing job.

  20. # 20 Henrique Gusso Says:

    Wow! Such great news! And let me add that the logo is looking great!
    I can barely wait, I’ve been following both the downloadable apps and the php ones, and they are great! The big challenge is making a program that reaches enough people so it’s worth it, but isn’t so widely spread so AOL and Yahoo notice, otherwise they change a little bit in the code and ban, it doesn’t work anymore, like it happened in the past. I hope that we can achieve that here with Glideo.

    If possible, I would love to have an invitation or to be in the testing team! See you, and thanks for the great news

  21. # 21 Tim Nguyen-nhat Says:

    Can i be your tester ???

  22. # 22 JMR Says:

    @ Ferny

    Have you sent out the invites yet?

  23. # 23 Fox Says:

    BETA! sign me up lol, just wanted to pop say good work man…can’t wait for the final release

  24. # 24 andyradke Says:

    Hey there. I’ve been using LyFOX for the past 2 years or so and am very anxious to see what you concocted with Glideo. I would very much love to be included in the beta testing if at all possible. Either way, thank you for your time.

  25. # 25 Long Says:

    Hey pick me too!

  26. # 26 LinkinJunior Says:

    I’m interested.

  27. # 27 JMR Says:

    Well I got tired of waiting so I re-wrote the code from scratch and now I can get full 700k 400×300 streams or greater and is complete with MMS link so no need to snoop for it anymore. The 320×240 feed is also available as that is sometimes an older feed that is different from the new and some are without the logo.

    It is using Flash for preview so it is 100% cross-browser compliant. The search fully functional and is capable of serving other countries as well where Yahoo serves videos (UK, Canada, France, etc.) although I haven’t implemented it yet.

    I am finishing up the code for AOL also. They serve as high as (or more) 1.5M 640×480 streams and can be downloaded in a buffet of media (wma, mov or flv) format. Now that’s really is near DVD quality.

    I may even set it for other video site as well when time permits.

    Stay tuned for more info…….

  28. # 28 fernyb Says:

    Hey JMR email me. at fernyb [ at ] fernyb [ dot ] net

  29. # 29 Henrique Gusso Says:

    Wow JMR, that’s really an amazing project! I’m hoping you and Ferny can achieve greatness in your projects, hopefully waiting for news on both of you.

  30. # 30 hphuong Says:

    i have used lyfox and gamv. It’s great. Easy to download song from Yahoo & Aol. Just want to try glideo so much.
    So give me invite, thanks so much.

  31. # 31 fernyb Says:

    jmr your email keeps bouncing back it never gets sent.. why?

  32. # 32 JMR Says:

    ferny, I just sent you a new email.

  33. # 33 Deepak Shah Says:

    Hey Ferny i was always a big fan of ur work and wish u best of luck in this 1 becomes gigger hit then lyfox

    hope i will get to test glideo

    my mail

  34. # 34 JMR Says:

    Project complete! It is now ready for beta testing.

  35. # 35 jjr Says:

    hummm…. link?

  36. # 36 Deepak Shah Says:

    made logos for glideo

  37. # 37 JMR Says:

    jjr, what’s your email?

  38. # 38 Deepak Shah Says:

    Send 1 Beta Verson 2 me also plz

  39. # 39 jjr Says:

    @deepak Shah – Logos


  40. # 40 apoorva Says:

    would love to test it….

    e mail me—-chandarkm[at]rediffmail[dot]com

  41. # 41 apoorva Says:

    @Deepak Shah

    ferny’s glideo logo already looks cool….nice effort though…

  42. # 42 sunny Says:

    @JMR & FernyB
    i wanna test it too
    Thank u

  43. # 43 JMR Says:

    Hey all, feel free to test it out.
    You will find VideoBot @:

    Just make note that it is constantly being updated,
    so just have patience if it seems to have some
    “hiccups” from time to time.


  44. # 44 Henrique Gusso Says:

    Hey JMR, great work you made on that. The “copy MMS” buttons are not working for me, but the WMP link is, however I can’t right-click and copy it myself, as you seem to have protected the site from that command. Just a note for a fix.

    But great job nevertheless, awesome =)

  45. # 45 JMR Says:

    Can you tell me which browser you are using? The “Copy MMS” should work fine with both IE and FireFox (Mozilla). Just would like to know. That function will be updated in the near fure anyway. For the mean time, you can launch it in WMP and go to PROPERTIES and you can copy the MMS url from there under LOCATION.

  46. # 46 jjr Says:

    Im running FF WinXP. It would be nice to figure out the path of the FLV as well ;-) , so you could load the movies into your custom FLV player ;-) which I can make if you like

  47. # 47 Henrique Gusso Says:

    I’m using Firefox
    Just tested in IE7 and it worked, but I can’t make it work on Firefox.

    Using Windows XP SP2

  48. # 48 JMR Says:

    Problem fixed! the “Copy MMS” should work for FireFox now. Thanks for letting me know.

    I will be updating the site this weekend so that you guys will be able to post comments and questions there (just like here). I hate to take up some space on Ferny’s blog.

    Anyway, I’m glad you guys are enjoying it.

  49. # 49 Henrique Gusso Says:

    Great, work, it really is fixed.

    One extra suggestion I have is that the people who only want to grab Yahoo’s MMS need to go through the small loading time of the Yahoo flash app, and if the person wants the MMS, probably does not want to watch it in flash. It would be hugely more pratical if instead of that Yahoo button on the right side of each search result, the 400×300 “copy MMS” button would be there instead, directly in the page of the search, instead of having to open a popup. And just leaving the popup for the people who want to watch it in flash.

  50. # 50 apoorva Says:


    yes, good idea…very practical….i am sure JMR will do something about it…

  51. # 51 mee Says:

    I want to play… circumvention is fun!

  52. # 52 mee Says:

    I’m a bit of a purist… I’ve been trying to use all in-browser tools to extract yahoo goodness ;) The stress of developing JS to deter content harvesting has apparently gotten to staff… there are some interesting use of expletives only prying eyes will see ;)

  53. # 53 geekmaster Says:

    hey JMR the mms only works if i edit the url.
    ex original:mms://

  54. # 54 J5 Says:

    JMR –

    Is this still working? I’m copying the MMS, pasting onto SDP but get an error message.

    “Parameter in location given is incorrect”

  55. # 55 JMR Says:

    Hey guys there is a new comment section @ VideoBot if you want to post comments or questions. I don’t want to clutter Ferny’s blog of VideoBot’s issues.

    @ J5, I just tested the link and it works with SDP and VLC. Keep in mind that sometimes a token (which is part of the mms link) expires instantly for unknown reason but the quick fix for that is to launch the video again to get a new link with a new token. In short, if it doesn’t work, try again.

    @ geekmaster, yes that will sometimes work because of a cookie that still active in your PC. As mentioned above, if a link doen’t work, it’s best to just try it again by relaunching a new window.

  56. # 56 Elliot Says:

    Great,I cant wait unitl it comes out!

  57. # 57 Cumsee Says:

    Hi, I just LOVE lyfox and GAMV. And I hope i’m getting a Invite to Glideo Beta.

    Here’s my Email:

  58. # 58 stack Says:

    nice work guys. .. . . . . .send me invite if you still got a slot . . .thanks

  59. # 59 miliya Says:

    Hi guys.thumbs up for yo apps. send me an invite too. thanx.
    here’s my mail

  60. # 60 DreAming Says:

    I love this project, thanks you so much.

    I just tested, I can’t find videos form UK, Germany, Canada Yahoo music

  61. # 61 DreAming Says:

    Oops, I can’t download wmv file from AOL

  62. # 62 tim Says:

    hi, send me an invite too. i’m dying to download nhl video highlights from yahoo, and

  63. # 63 Stack Zwolle Says:

    nice work guys. .. . . . . .send me invite if you still got a slot . . .thanks

  64. # 64 Deepak Shah Says:

    Hey ferny and jmr will we be able to get hi-q videos of aol or video as good as this 1
    which is 1.5mbps in quality and owsome sound

  65. # 65 jjr Says:

    @ Deepak Shah

    How did you get that link?

  66. # 66 Deepak Shah Says:

    Magic LOL

    neways thats almost dvd quality owsome video and audio quality

  67. # 67 Deepak Shah Says:

    i am so active on this blog but still didnt recived ne beta versions so bad

  68. # 68 fernyb Says:

    Deepak don’t worry no one has been given an invite it is still too early for anyone to test… Sorry to keep you waiting so long

  69. # 69 Deepak Shah Says:

    no probz man we will wait but make a wonderful thing for us n dont forget to gimme invite lol

  70. # 70 Damned Ghost Says:

    Hey FernyB!!

    Hi THere!!! Awesome work I should say… here are a few things I’d mention which might be of some use… bugs maybe…

    (1) The videobot allows you to download files in whatever format you want and whatever quality you want… however, there are a few problems wid some permutations.

    For example, Hi-Q with WMV yields a 700K URL (which is good quality but nowhere near a DVD nonetheless, especially the audio) – this URL CAN NOT be downloaded using FlashGet, which otherwise downloads other mms URLs properly…

    (2) Same with the .mov files. phpGAMV gives us the highest .mov files possible – videobot allows us to choose. But that doesnt make much of a difference – :( – like most of Linkin Park’s works are 7-8 mb in size… and qualifies as hi-Q

    I couldnt make my problem clear – I’m really excited with the near DVD quality videos… And I found this one Dani California video for 187 MB using phpGamv. :D Where does it qualkify? Hi-Q or somewhere else?

    Whats Hi-Q by tjhe way ? Highest Quality or a techie term?

    I’d be really thankful if you could provide a distinction of all the quality modes available

    (3)Theres a Dani California video which is 187 mb – now – VLC player says it is 320*240 in resolutino – which is not possible if 1500 mbps vids are at 640*480 – what can be the cause ??

    (4)Like I said in the phpGAMV thread – many many videos are not retriveable… I’ve mentioned them there.. but the most noteable one is the Alice In Chains Videography – none of them are there :P

  71. # 71 Damned Ghost Says:

    Regarding DVD quality videos :P

    I just downloaded Sanatna – Just Feel Better using phpGAMV – the quicktime player gives the following details : -

    Sorenson 3 Video/320*240 resolution :D /24 FPS/Stereo @ 44KHz

    I dont have any complaints with this video quality – but its not what has been said here. DVD quality :o certainly not! The vieo shows pixelation when played in double size – the pic quality is GREAT!!!! but certainly nowhere near a DVD – mightbe cuz of the resolution – but no whining cuz there are no other problems like flickering or similar glitches

    Well, JMR said there are 640*480 videos as well… so was just wondering – I have no PROBS with these videos as long as they are professional [those MPegs floating around net - my GOD - horrible flickerig and noise :( ] but a little bit of luxury I would surely not mind :P S ocan anyone tell me whats the deal with them high resolution videos?

  72. # 72 FernyB Says:

    Deepak Shah,
    How in the world did you get such a hi-res video??????? please tell… if not email me and let me know…

  73. # 73 Damned Ghost Says:

    To Deepak Shah


    Whats the deal? Use phpGAMV – but tell me… is it 640*480 in resolution or 320*240

  74. # 74 Damned Ghost Says:

    To Deepak Shah

    Damn!!!! This video IS 640 * 480 resolution :P

    Now its getting real mind boggling :o

    But its pretty simple…

    The matchbox20 video that Deepak is talking about is well, a brand new release – just a month old or so :D and a look at the movie inspector of quicktime tells us that it is in H.264 Mpeg4 codec – a codec which Quicktime supports for not more than 7 months… so only the newer files encoded through this QuickTime7 will have a H.264 coding – The 640*480 resolution might come along with it :D

    The other videos might be re-encoded and uploaded shortly – but this is the fear factor – as soon as the reuploading is done – phpGAMV wont work :(

  75. # 75 Damned Ghost Says:

    Oh god!!!

    Those werent for Deepak Shah – it was for fernyB all the way ;)

    Now you might consider pondering over my queries…

    I just cant understand – Dani California – 187 Megabytes – and 320*240 resolution :o

  76. # 76 Damned Ghost Says:

    Update :

    Here is what I say – the link that phpGAMV gives are not always this 1500 K…

    Ive downloaded two other files using GAMV – [700K links provided by the utility]

    LP – Bleed It Out ;)
    Switchfoot – Awakening

    Both of these are new releases so are encoded in H.264
    The 700K links are in 400*300 resolution – awesome :D

    change the 700 in the above link to 1500
    and DAMN!!! you get a 640*480 file

    well – to tell the truth – phpGAMV is providing 700K links for all new releases…
    at the same time – older releases have their 1500 K links being displayed – still – they being older are not encoded in H.264 and hence 1500K have a 320*240 resolution


    Can anyone do a few tweaks and tell if the older ones have been re-encoded and uploaded? cuz its been 7 months since the new codec, and AOL prolly wont want to waste double bandwidth over inferior quality ;)

    And seriously – whats wrong with the Dani California video :o 187 Megs and 320*240 ???

    Yes – I downloaded that on dialup :( so please atleast some discussion…

  77. # 77 Deepak Shah Says:

    Damned Ghost Is Right You Just Have To Change From 700 To 1500 I Thought You Guys Must Have Known It Neways Don’t Get Exicted It Works Only For New Videos And Many Dont Even Work With This Code Ne Ways

    If You Didnt Knew This Than How Da Hell Were You Gonna Give HI-Q Vids?????????????

  78. # 78 Deepak Shah Says:

    And Tha Matchbox Vid Is Just A Week Old

  79. # 79 Damned Ghost Says:

    Hey Deepak – you ought to give the guys some respect x(

    thats not the way you talk with them… theyre good at coding.. not jobless people like us who devote their lives to stream ripping

    and theres more to it than Ive said before :) but well… lets say.. I’ll work on it more till I get 640*480 for all notable vids

  80. # 80 Deepak Shah Says:

    Hey V Buddy With All Due Respect I didnt Insulted Him And Ferny Knoes How Much I Respect Him I Need Not Prove It To You And Buddy I Had Just Asked Them A Question Nothin Else Wats Bad In That…………….

    And Abt Job Buddy I’m Just 16 Year Old Guy Who Plays PS3,Counter-Strike And Cricket Why Would I Do A Job……….

    Neways I Agree Wid U They Are Doin 1 Hell Of A Job And Thats Gr8……..

    And Mr. Damned Ghost I Think You Need To Sleep……….

  81. # 81 Damned Ghost Says:

    eh… why sleep DS?

    jobless = those who havent got some constructive work to do

    at 16, you prolly need cope up with your SSC or your higher secondary ;)
    and you sayin u play CS/PS3/ :o :D

    no fights boss! Just saying… we’ll wait for FernyB for his work on what little facts we’ve uncovered

  82. # 82 Deepak Shah Says:

    Damned Ghost Dude Juz Chill Dude Relax Watz Da Problem Wid You?????????

  83. # 83 JMR Says:

    @ Damned Ghost

    First, I think you need to lay off some sodas or caffeine. I take offense to your posts here and @ php-GamV thread. Either you don’t express yourself well or it really is a problem.

    Second, I would like to clarify the VideoBot is totally independent of Glideo. It was coded by me from scratch from the ground up. However, I did use (borrow) Ferny’s green theme/skin for the meantime.

    Third, this Hi-Q 1500Mbps MOV is old news. This has been posted in VideoBot’s homepage from the get go. It has only been 4-5 days ago when AOL made the switch to Hi-Q for most of MOV files. So this is NOT your discovery (whoever claims).

    Fourth, I developed VideoBot for my personal convenience but decided to share it to public following Ferny’s good deed. Consider that as a payback. So if at the moment it doesn’t seem to fit your requirements, well too bad, you’ll just have to relax and wait until such feature is implemented. You can’t have all the icing on the cake.

    Fifth, I didn’t mention DVD quality. You must have me confused with somebody else here who claims so. If you don’t know what AOL Hi-Q means, look it up. If it is not serving you what you want then make your own.

    And last but not least, if you can modify the link to get what you need then there is no need to rush and demand feature change for your convenience. Be careful walking a fine thread or you may get that priviledge revoked.

  84. # 84 Damned Ghost Says:


    First off… Thanks for all your good work. :)

    You could any time go through my posts here, and you’ll find whatever Ive mentioned are either pertaining the 1500K streams that FernyB asked or suggestions for bugfixing. I was thoroughly satisfied by the freebie stuff. And none of my posts were directed at any person or laid down their works, so I’m surprised you took offence. Well if you did, I apologize.

    Well, lets say I just didnt do my research work properly before posting here; It was my enthusiasm that showed up in my expressionless posts ;) So far as expressing myself goes, I’m pretty well at that, and I certainly do not need to prove it.

    Best of luck with the rest of your work.

    :o Relax, lay down, my first post to you was about that how the hell part, and the second post was a friendly comment, you just got the tone wrong

  85. # 85 Deepak Shah Says:

    Cheers To Ferny & JMR You Guys Rock……….

  86. # 86 Namorbrowneyes Says:

    Hey this is all great work guys, but i was wondering if they was any way to unprotect the 1500k mov’s or something so i can convert them. I tried using videora ipod converter but the audio gets choppy and cut out in some parts. Anyone have any tips or help please?

  87. # 87 Dan Says:

    Invite me please

  88. # 88 Damned Ghost Says:

    At comment #86

    mencoder – CUI

  89. # 89 Jayto Says:

    Please invite me. I really want to try this.

  90. # 90 Deepak Shah Says:

  91. # 91 Pay Low Music! Says:

    Hey Ferny, Hey people!

    Pay Low Music! is coming with a little surprise.
    I hope you all like it!

  92. # 92 Henrique Gusso Says:

    I hope you’re reading this, JMR, what happened to the website!?

  93. # 93 andrea Says:

    invite me to betatest of glideo please :)

  94. # 94 Sam Says:

    invite me please, i want to use it. thanks

  95. # 95 subzero Says:

    Hey guys, now I can’t download the 1500K .MOV file but I still can download the 700K .MOV file from AOL. I think AOL has changes the directory of the Hi-Q MOV files or maybe these files has been deleted.
    Please invite me to test beta glideo. Thanks

  96. # 96 Nrvous Says:

    Great work on phpGAMV. I’d like an invite as well once you’re ready.

  97. # 97 Henrique Gusso Says:

    Yea, for some reason no more 1500k videos from AOL until someone figures out what’s wrong =(

  98. # 98 Damned Ghost Says:


    This BJ vid is available… also.. some BJ vids require an authorization.. Error 403[file exists but cant be accessed] and not Error 404 [File doesnt exist].

    Now this could mean many things :D

    Next time theres an opening in AOL, I’ll make sure I download each and every 1500K video thats out there :D ;)

  99. # 99 Henrique Gusso Says:

    Yeah, me too…
    It’s been so slow on news without Glideo, and the removal of comments on Videobot.

  100. # 100 Sean Colyer Says:

    I started a small little project which might be of interest here. I have no good way of communicating with you FernyB (but if you read this please shoot me an email), but I might as well share it with everyone.

    I have dubbed it GAMVL: Get AOL Music Videos Leech – it basically is a front-end GUI for the phpGAMV located here. It incorporates downloading several videos at a time and transcodes to iPod format should you desire.

    Check it out at , the source is posted under GPL V2.0 so feel free to chip in, give ideas.

  101. # 101 Paolo Says:

    Hola!!! Quiero felicitarte x tomarte la molestia de hacer esto para todos nosotros. Pero cuando estará listo eh? Espero me respondas pronto. Gracias

  102. # 102 Deepak Shah Says:

    He ferny ne new news on glideo oe aol v are wating

  103. # 103 Pay Low Music! Says:

    Ferny, Can I contact you in regard to Glideo? It’s very interested matter!

    And to everybody, If you are interested in trying the new beta version of Pay Low Music!, please participate in the beta program at and you will earn money from participating. It’s free to participate of course!

  104. # 104 Jaskaran Says:

    @ Damned ghost
    use authorization as anonymous for both username and password,worked for me in phpGAMV.

    hey ferny,dude i’d like an invite as well.
    thanks in advance.

  105. # 105 Zach Says:

    Are you even working on this anymore? I haven’t seen anything new on it in a REALLY long time..


  106. # 106 Francis Says:

    Hey, Ferny, Lyfox doesn’t work anymore. :(
    It seems like Yahoo has changed their whole video library, would you fix it, please?

  107. # 107 samuel Says:

    People who like download music videos for free also like download music for free
    Download music from napster and rhapsody free

  108. # 108 J5 Says:

    Sigh… all good things must come to an end I guess.
    Really loved Lyfox. Enjoyed videobot as well.
    Now I can’t get any videos from Yahoo anymore.

    Ferny you going to help our your loyal followers again?


  109. # 109 FernyB Says:

    I haven’t been using LyFOX for a long time now, I know it had some issues, I guess I can try to get it back but I have been busy with other stuff, You know, “real life work”, and other side projects, I will think of something.. It was a good 3 years of LyFOX.. and wow it lasted that long. I did what I could, of course I will always try to come up with something useful.
    Thanks Everyone.

  110. # 110 samuel Says:

    Hey ferny
    just see my blog
    I’ve some tricks how to download music videos from more than 100 sites
    including yahoo music, aol music, mtv, vh1, youtube etc..
    It works 100%.
    If you like that trick please refer my blog to these people till you complete your glideo project. If you think it’s not that worth then just ban me from coming or participating in your website.

  111. # 111 fernyb Says:

    I don’t ban people. I don’t see any reason why I should but Your comments will be of some use to people looking to continue downloading music videos.

  112. # 112 Kevin Says:

    Long time lurker here at your site..
    If you could keep me in the loop regarding your projects, including…um,…this one!!… believe me it won’t go to waste – I will definintely use it, as I have all your items of the past.
    Thank you,

  113. # 113 LordCastrey Says:

    Hic.. hic… I though this Glideo would be a great software. After long time waiting.. it doesn’t seems to be happened. I remember when the LyFox is still downloadable software with that cool Black style. It’s still the best of LyFox until now. And then, the next version could download from UK region which is until now never showed up anymore. What a nice memory, hics.. hics.. :(

    VideoBot seems to be almost dead.. LyFox certainly has. I can’t believe all of this great pleasure is going to an end. :(

  114. # 114 Deepak Shah Says:

    Everything comes to end for something better but i dont think aol 1500k vids can cum back no chance they have change it or sumthing.

  115. # 115 Yubaraj Roy Says:

    Hey Ferny,

    I acn’t download aol videos any more. The link is available in php version of GAMV. It shows “the server replies that you don’t have permission to download this file”

    for example the link is

  116. # 116 Zach Says:

    I take it you’re not going to do anything with glideo.

    Way to leave us ALL hanging.

    I ‘ve checked back regularly for almost a year now.

    You could’ve at least told us you’re not even going to try anymore.

    Thanks a lot.

  117. # 117 fernyb Says:

    Well, the project is dead. I no longer work on it. I don’t make any money from it so I don’t have time.

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